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Episode 4 · 1 year ago

Why (and how) the First Christians Quashed 600 Hebrew Laws

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

A theological war was raging between the first Christians led by the apostle Paul and the judaizers demanding submission to the Hebrew bible (Old Testament), represented by Peter and James. 

The situation came to a head in 48 A.D. at the Council of Jerusalem and resulted in the dismissal of over 600 Hebrew laws - get the story behind the story on today's episode.

The Very First Bible 

ISBN: 978-0-578-64159-1
Library of Congress: 2020901841
255 pages, illustrated 

SOTIME for another edition of the RightBible podcast, your weekly deep dive into the story of the very first Bibleand the Marcianite Christian Church find out more at the very first Bible,dot, org stripping away two thousand years. Af False doctrine isn't easy,but we've had lots of coffee. Now your host Daren Kalama and welcome back to another edition ofthe Right Bible podcast on a beautiful Sunday, and I in fact did have somecoffee and I think I need some more coffee for today's edition, becausewe're going to talk about. Unfortunately, the Old Testamentthere's really no getting around it, but just a little bit of housekeeping first make sure you haveyour copy of the very first Bible with you, because today we're going to take the training,wheels off a little bit and start...

...getting into specific verses and scripture and to follow along. Youreally are going to need that that copy of the very first Bible with Yo you canget that free. There's links show links that you can click on and get it free or you can just get a paperback version on Amazon typein the very first Bible, and it should be the first thing you see on yourscreen, so the last few episodes we've covered things that I'm pretty happy about. Wegot to cover the actual contents of the very first Bible. We went through theten epistles that are in it. We yesterday went through the Gospel of the Lord God into some of itshistory. So now we've got a good framework on what's in the very firstBible and that's that's really important and and again I feel prettygood about it that we're done with that.

But now this gets us into the history portion of the very firstBible, and that means we're going to use a timeline to kind of help us workthrough it. Now people think that, right after the resurrection of Christ,you know there was this period of tranquillity and peace and a lot of singing of Cumbai. Well,actually none of that happened. It was a time of division, persecution and,above all, lots of arguing about what it was to even be a Christian. Therewas a huge tug of war between the Judy insers within the Church and the first Christians and woe'd like tocall these vetoro wars, and it would have started immediately after Christ'sresurrection, so call it from about thirty Threeaad to about forty. SevenAigt were the Tora wars or you could even call thim the apostle wars,because the e was a battle between the...

...apostles two opposing sides, one thatwanted to cling to the chains of Judiaism and theHebrew law and the other side led by the Apostle Paul. That said, we nowhave God's grace. We don't need all of these laws and and that that warbetween the apostles raged for well over a decade, and so you had Paulen one side and you hadPeter and James. On the other side, and and at this point the church was deeplydivided. In fact, things hadn't come to a head. Ifdecisions hadn't been made, the church really literally could have binchesbroken up into dozens of different little Bantu standsand we would have had you know, bizarre sex of Christianity all over the known world at that point,but but thank God that didn't happen, and when we talke about a battle overthese Hebrew laws...

...on one side and grace on the other,what will we mean by Hebrew laws? Are we talking about the Ten Commandments?Well, you know daren. I know about the ten commandments, everybody. What's thebig deal about that, we agree on that. You know the Hebrews have the TenCommandments. We agree with the tankomandments. You know. That's allpart of the thing everybody's on the same page with that. Well, that's notwhat this battle was about, because the Hebrew Bible, or is your trying to sayit- the Old Testament actually contains over six hundred laws. Six hundred thirteen to be exact andPaul saw that it was not possible to be a Christian and follow these laws. It'sjust it's just not possible, and the problem that we run into is on the onthe Hebrew side of thing say: Peter and James You've got people who are saying,wait that you know the this is the Old Testament. The Hebrew vival isliterally the word of God. You know...

...that means that all six hundredthirteen of these laws are also the word of God. So every letter every jotand tittle in the Bible is the word of God. Well, not really, or at least notanymore, so things have changed a little bit and those changes took placeat the Council of Jerusalem in forty eight ad, but before we, you knowreally get into the counsel of Jerusalem a and the important decisionsthat were made there. Maybe we should take a closer look at some of these sixhundred thirteen laws. Now, obviously, I'm not going to go through all sixhundred, thirteen of them just some some examples to kind of give you anidea of what it is that we're talking about. They had laws for virtuallyeverything I mean from the moment you woke up till you went to sleep to everyinteraction that you could almost possibly have with another human beingor with groups of human beings within your tribe or groups of human beingsfrom other tribes.

The ways in which you worship this daddown to you know the LAMD that you sacrifice toit couldn't have any blemishes on it or an if so, what kinds of blemishes women during their period, you know howthey had to be dealt with, how they were considered unclean for seven days,people who had leprosy if youere a Lepar there were special laws that youhad to follow. Just just I mean literally everything that you canpossibly imagine happening from sun up to sundown. They had a law forincluding how to let's say there was a murderer loose in your village, butnobody could find him. Nobody knew what to do well. They had a special law forthat too, and that involved going out and finding a valley taking a cow tothat valley and then cutting its neck off. Somehow that wasgoing to help you find a killer...

...and there were lost with involvingmoney, lots of laws involving money. Surprise, including laws on you, weren't allowed to charge interestto other Jews, but if they weren't a Jew, hey the more the marrier pile theinterest on there were laws regarding what I call hot slave laws. Let's sayyou had a tough day ore out there. You know killing the enemy, including women andchildren, by the way- and it's been a long day, you're kind of hanging outand n. The long comes his column of of slaves that they've captured and one ofthem looks pretty hot. Well guess what they have a law for that too, in DudeAronomy, tw thousand on Undre Leven. It says an seest among the captives, abeautiful woman and hast, a desire unto her that Thou wouldst have her to thywife. So, apparently you know it's like being at the mall or macis. You seesomething. You know you like, you just grab it and do Your Business and ofcourse we have Gourmett bug laws in...

Levidicis, Elen, twenty one. It saysyet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that Goeth upon all fourwhich have legs above their feet to leap withal upon the Earth, andapparently this is the eating bug law that they use forlocus. So the point I'm trying to make here is not to gross you out. It's justto try to illustrate how many laws there were dealing with so many thingsand not to get lost in the shuffle. Here you have to remember thataccording to the Hebrews, their God told them specifically to do thesespecific things during these specific instances under specific circumstances.So God took time out of the day to you know: let them know what leg segmentsof a bug were okay to eat. Now you can go ahead and believe that that's finebut Paul and the other first Christian said, look we're not buying this. Wedidn't sign up for this think about it.

This way, when we build something onsand, we know it's not going to last very long and a religion created andconstantly changed and edited by man is no different, and so it is with theHebrew Bible or again is you've been taught to call it the Old Testamentwhat they did as they just simply ascribe their own group traits andbeliefs unto a deity and wrote it down. Now we went through some examples ofwhy the early Christians thought this and specifically why the Marcyunitesthought this. But what else? Besides the six hundred laws concerning theHebrew Bible and the Deity that's portrayed in it, should the apostleshave dumped in forty eight ad at the council of Jerusalem, our contention is,they should have dumped all of it, not just six hundred laws but the entiresubtext, the entire Hebrew Bible, because none of it applies to you- andI is Christians- and you know at this...

...point- you can think the apostle pawfor the fact that you're not standing in your front porch right now, twirlinga magic chicken over your head. Now the Hebrew Bible at its core. When you getright down to, it is an instruction manual for Jewish self worship, writtenby their high priests, with a violent, jealous and barbaric deity. As itsvocal point and one of the first things you notice, when you read through theHebrew Bible, are the human traits and emotions that are displayed by thisHebrew Deity, including lots of jealousy and rage and lying, and it's it's all there. It'sall there. These are all very human traits so that that tells yot rightthere. You know you would expect this kind of behavior that's exhibited inthe in the Hebrew Bible in any kind of written fictional account written by ahuman being, and that's what we have here now. The antithesis of this iswhat is found in the New Testament. What is found in our Christian God thatwas revealed to us through Jesus Christ?...

It's completely the opposite! It's theantithesis, and that brings us full circle back to the CONSIL O ofJerusalem and forty Egtat, where everything was decided and agreed upon. Even Peter andJames were on board, and everyone agreed that that the six hundred lawswere ridiculous and to try to force them on to these new Christians or to try toconvert other people to Christianity was going to be next to him possible ifthey had to follow all these laws and by the way I didn't even get into thecircumcision part of it, which, which was a large part of the meeting thatalso was cast aside and trashed. So this was this was a momentous occasionfor Christianity and for the next roughly hundred years. Everything wasfine in terms of the doctrine and the Dogma underlying Christianity. Everybody wason the same page. Everybody was in...

...agreement on what those core principleswere. Now we still at this point didn't have anything written down. The onlypeople who had things written down were the Hebrews. We still had this HebrewBible floating around, most of which now we didn't follow because of whathappened o the Counsil of Jerusalem. So we only had oral traditions to go by interms of the life and teachings of Jesus Christ. So people you know theyjust talk to each other. There were some documents floating around, but butbut very few and in fact there were very few churches really at this pointthere were the ones that that Paul established throughout the Roman Empire,but you know, writing and and and and formal structure. A lot of these thingswere lacking until someone named Marciano Signup, who live from eightyfive ad to about Onedad. Sixty ad came on the scene and he was the son of theBishop of Pontis. Pontus is an area of...

...now its modern day, Turkey and thin.Our next episode we're going to get into Marcion's travels using hisshipping empire. He revisited all of the Apostle Paul'schurches gathered his epistles. I got a hold of his gospel of the Lord and puttogether for us all the Elogians agree or many of them. We wouldn't even have a new testamentif it wasn't for Marciano, signup, so a very interesting character andwe're going to talk more about him and in depth in thenext episode. Let me just give you my closing comment on thiswhole Old Testament, herew bibl business. It can be summed up in a verysimple sentence, which is not your book, not your God. On that note, we will seeyou next time so.

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