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Identity Theft: How Christians were conned into worshipping a Hebrew War God


In 144 A.D. the first Christians compared and contrasted the God portrayed in the Old and New Testaments. They came to the obvious conclusion they were not the same God - in this episode we take a deep dive into scriptures and find out why.

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Stripping away two thousand years a false doctrine isn't easy, but we've had lots of coffee. Now your host, Darren Calama. Hey, everybody, welcome back to another edition of the Right Bible podcast, and I am Darren Klama. We want to start off today's show with a pop quiz. What's the difference between the first Christian Bible and the one that you have? And the answer is sixty three extra books, three extra gospels and an extra God. Now, in our prior episodes we laid the ground workout for when, how and who compile the very first Bible in one hundred forty four a D, and we walk through the timeline the actors in the events involved in stapling the Hebrew Bible, Old Testament, onto your Christian Bible in three hundred and twenty five a d at the council of NICEA. Now, today we want to dispassionately and unemotionally demonstrate why the Deity portrayed in the Hebrew Bible, the Old Testament, is not and cannot be the same Christian God that we know, the one revealed to us through Christ. Now, because the Hebrew Bible Hustle is so deep seated and ingrained in most people, taught and reinforced to them like a drum beat since childhood. We want to be careful not to rely on emotions or drama when we when we lay out all of these facts, and we do this US knowing that, in spite of those facts, there's always going to be a segment of society that we won't be able to reach or convince. People that believe in space aliens, the official nine hundred and one story alone, JFK shooter playing golf and driving around on the moon in a Dunebug he will drinking Tang or believe that a flu bug with a ninety nine point nine seven percent recovery rate is a logical reason to mask everyone, kill the world economy and genetically alter humanity forever with a new RN, a vaccine. Now think about how emotionally invested you are to one side or the other of each of those subjects. Now apply it to your belief in the theological construct that you've been taught to belief since childhood. You see, that's a tough nut to crack. No, and we realize this, some people, regrettably, we won't be able to reach and for those people, I suppose it makes sense that an alien Hebrew War God is what they want to pray to. And let's just clarify the term Hebrew God. That's just a term for purposes of discussion. It's not a god, just a figment of the very vivid and disturbing imaginations of a desert tribe thousands of years ago. Now is Christians. We believe in one God, that God revealed to us through Christ, but we also believe that there's a Satan and anti Christ. So if you're a Hindu, Buddhist, Jew or Muslim, those are your two choices and we pray that you choose wisely. Now then, given their more recent dabblings in the Anti Christian Talmud, Jematria and the Kabbala, were these Hebrews actually worshiping and praying to the Anti Christ? We don't know, nor is it of great concern to us now. What we do know is that they weren't praying to our Christian God then and they aren't praying to our Christian God now. They're not doing it today now. If you doubt me, go ahead and ask one. Readers of the Modern Bible are reminded of John Fourteen six, quote unquote. I am the way, the truth and the life. No Man Cometh under the father but by me, unquote. Now, even for Hardcore Evangelical Judyizers, that verse is very clear. It's crystal clear. There's no way to play word games with it or creatively interpret some hidden meaning, you know, while they wear a prayer shawl and twirl a magic chicken. There's no way to do it. Now this brings us...

...full circle back to our topic. How we know the Hebrew God portrayed in the Ote or the Old Testament is not the Christian God revealed by Christ to us in the New Testament. And, by the way, this is in some recent discovery or revelation a few people had sitting over coffee in the break room yesterday. The first Christians realize this in full in one hundred and forty four a d because that's one. For the first time, using the first Christian Bible with its Gospel of the Lord and Epistles, they could lay out side by side and contrast and compare the scriptures as written between the new and old testaments. Now the evidence was so powerful that it caused a schism in the early church and millions of Christians broke away from the Judaizers. They were led by a man you probably never heard of who wrote a book you definitely never heard of now. That man was Marcian of Sinope, and the book was simply titled Antithesis, and that book laid out the evidence proving the Hebrew Bible and its war God are the polar opposite of the teachings of Christ and our Christian God. Now, regrettably, all copies of antithesis were hunted down and burned. We know of the book because his enemies included discredited paid hacks like Tertullian and others who made a career of smearing the man and his ideas. Tertullian, in his zeal, though, quoted from antithesis so much that we can almost reconstruct all of its contents. So we can at least thank him, somewhat ironically, for that much. And before the Tertullian Fan boys get all up in our arms, let us reflect on what St Joseph himself said about him, quote unquote. As to Tertullian, I have nothing more to say, except he was not a man of the church, Unquote. And by the way, we could do a whole show about what it discredited fraud. He is and and I might just do that, and that makes for a nice seguey, or a pivot back to our main topic, the self evident differences between the Hebrew Deity Jehovah and our Christian God. Now, to make this fair for everybody involved, I'm only going to use scriptures that everyone agrees are from the Modern Bible, from the King James Version. It will be their own words that hang them from a treaty. Now, as we run through the comparisons, we're reminded that Jesus did all the work for US already. He already told us the Hebrew God as an alien one and not his father. Did you know that? Let's read it slowly. Let's hear what he told the Jews, quote unquote. It is my father who honors me, of whom you say he is your God, yet you have not known him. Unquote. And that's from John Eight five for let's read that again. It is my father who honors me, of whom you say he is your God, yet you have not known him. Sounds pretty clear. In fact, Jesus once and for all confirms to the Jews the heavenly father was not the god of their religion. Neither was he known in the Old Testament. He was not known until Jesus revealed him. Now, of course, we're all familiar with on a forty four, in which he tells them their father is the devil. So this story just gets worse and worse. Now, make no mistake, Jesus was crystal clear that the Hebrew Deity was alien to him, was not God, and that these Jews had created a religion centered around a carnal, self worshiping, delusional fantasy, and they killed him for saying it. Let that sink in real deep, my friend. Now think real hard about if you should be praying to their God, that Jehovah Deity. This might be a good time to pause the PODCAST, right here, right now, and pray to our Christian God, the father...

...of Jesus, for forgiveness for allowing yourself to be fooled, for not asking deeper questions about something so obvious, something that's been right in front of you the whole time and in fact is not. The Apostle Paul even tell us that reading the Old Testament is like having a veil over your face. It prevents you from getting closer to Christ. So all of these warnings are there. In fact, you could rip that Old Testament out of your Bible right now. It wouldn't affect you as a Christian, not one shot or tittle, to quote a famous phrase. In fact, it might be a good time to download your free version of the very first Bible, the one that that the first Christians use back in one hundred and forty four a D and You can get that at the very first Bible Dot Org. At the website. It's right on the top right hand corner. Just Click Free Ebook and you'll be able to download that at no cost. Or you can get the paper bag version, which is going to last a little bit longer and that you can pick up at Amazon. Just type in the forwards the very first Bible and it will be the first listing you see. Click on that and you're good to go. So just to quickly recap what we've covered so far. You know, when we read the Bible it becomes obvious to the Serious Bible student that the old and new testaments each present God in a vastly different way. The God of the Old Testament is a god of war and a murderer who boasted of being jealous and the creator of evil. We see that in Isaiah forty five, six and seven, and exit is thirty four fourteen. Yet the God in the New Testament is entirely different. He is the god of love and peace, as we know from Second Corinthians Thirteen, eleven and again, don't take my word for any of this. I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. I just want to lay out what's actually written in black and white so you can contrast and compare the differences. Now let's start with something pretty easy. I'm going to take a scripture from the New Testament on a specific subject matter and then compare it to what's written and about it in the Old Testament, in the Hebrew Bible, in terms of or in the light of their their their Hebrew Deity there, Jehovah. So let's start with John Sixteen, very easy. Everyone's already heard of it. For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. Now let's look at the Hebrew Deity, quote unquote, kill them all, old and young girls, and women and little children defiled the temple, the Lord commanded fill its courtyard with corpses, go unquote. That's from Ezekiel six. So right away we kind of get a taste of the tone and tenor of the differences between the two. I mean it almost sounds like Charles Manson wrote that that first. I mean we're where does that even come from? What personality does that come from? It really sounds like it's written by a person, not not just any person, but clearly a deranged person, someone who would probably be in jail if they were living in our times. Let's go back to the New Testament. This is from Mark Ten, one thousand, three hundred and fourteen. And they brought young children to him, and his disciples rebuked those that brought them, but Jesus said unto them, allow the little children to come to me, and forbid them not, for of such is the Kingdom of God. Now let's contrast and compare that to the Hebrew Bible version of children. Quote Unquote. There came forth little children out of the city and...

...mocked him and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth to she bears out of the woods and they tore forty two of those children. This is from second kings to twenty three and twenty four, and basically the back story on that Hebrew Bible verse is that their Prophet, Elijah, who was bald, was being taunted by these these little kids. You might think that's funny, but according to them, this is what happened. So the kids and kids will do this. They they taunted them. He's bald, they laughed at them and he prayed to his Hebrew God that these little kids should be killed, and his Hebrew God sent to bears out of the woods, and those bears rip those little children apart and killed them. I mean what, what is that? Where does that come from? What kind of what kind of sick mind comes up with that? Oh, you're going to make fun of me, so I'm going to tell my Hebrew War God to send some bears to eat these kids. I mean what, it's just sick. All right. Here's another one, first from the New Testament, Mark Ten sixteen, quote unquote. And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them and bless them. Let's contrast to the Old Testament. How do they look? At a simple subject of hands. Quote Unquote. If two men are fighting and the wife of one steps in to rescue her husband from the one striking him and she reaches out her hand and grabs his genitals, you are to cut off her hand. You must show her no pity. That's from Deuteronomy, two thousand, five hundred and twelve. I mean, do I even need to make comments after I read these these Hebrew Deity quotes? I mean, what is going on with these people? And they want you to believe that that's your God. They want you to believe that the father of Christ actually said this stuff or did this stuff or commanded these things. It's ridiculous on its face. Let's go back to the New Testament and because we're going to get into some some interesting stuff. I mean, I didn't really mean to be, you know, jarring in the beginning, but some of these examples are just so over the top. I mean they just have to be said. All right, back to the New Testament. This is luke six hundred forty three. Quote. Quote for a corrupt tree bringeth forth not good fruit. Neither does a good tree bringeth forth corrupt fruit. Now what is the Hebrew Bible say? About the same subject, quote unquote. And out of the ground, the Lord of Yahweh made every tree to grow the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. And that's from genesis to nine three one. So here we have the Hebrew God is capable of producing good and evil and does both. He kills children, he I don't know, I mean it's it's just amazing. All right. Here's another example, New Testament. This is from a first Corinthians, thirteen five, quote unquote. God's light and in him is no darkness at all. Another one from John Sixteen, God is love, and another one from First Corinthians. God thinketh no evil. Now let's contrast those, those verses with the Hebrew dty. Quote Unquote, I form light and create darkness, I make peace and create evil. I, the Lord Yahweh, do all these things. So on one hand, with the New Testament,...'re saying God is light, there's no darkness, and God, God is love, there is no evil. He's not. It's evil is just not part of what God is and what he does. Yet we contrast that to this this this psychopathic Hebrew Deity where he says, yeah, I form light and I create darkness, I make peace and I create evil. I'm the Lord Yawe, I do all these things. See The difference. So again, corrupt trees, corrupt fruit. Good tree, good fruit. Let's go back to another subject, jealousy. Love knows no jealousy. First Corinthians Thirteen. For Hebrew Deity, I, the Lord, your God, am a jealous God, for the Lord whose name is jealous is a jealous God. Again, I mean just completely direct contradictions, polar opposites. Now this one is kind of interesting because it gets into how our Christian God views things through a sense of time and how their Hebrew Deity also views things through a sense of time. But you'll notice it's like looking in a like a carnival fun House Mirror, like a hall of Mirrors. It's really weird. Let's take the first one from the New Testament. Then Com Peter to him and said, Lord, How oft shall my brother Sin Against me? And I forgive him until seven times Jesus said to him. I say not to you until seven time, Spot, until seventy times seven. That's from Matthew, one thousand eight hundred and twenty three. And here's the Hebrew War God version of that same thought. Process, for I the Lord God and the Jealous God, visiting the Iniquity of the fathers upon the third and fourth generation of them that hate me. So here's the Hebrew War God saying, look, if your dad doesn't like me or he displeases me or hates me in some way, I'm not only going to punish him, I'm going to punish his kids and then, when I'm done with that, I'm going to punish their kids and then when they have kids, I'm going to curse those kids too. This is just this is this is psychopath stuff. This is Charles Manson world, and they want you to believe that this is your God, that this is your Christian God. It's truly amazing. Here's another real simple example. New Testament. Be Ye, angry, yet not committing sin. Let not the Sun be going down upon your wrath. From Ephesians for twenty six. Here's the Hebrew War God version the again, think, talking about the sun, using the son as an example, quote unquote. And the son stood still and the moon stayed until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Joshua twelve fourteen. So here, here, here, New Testament side, we're saying. Don't you know, if you get angry with someone or you have a fight with somebody, don't let don't don't go to sleep with that feeling of hatred against another person. Don't let the sun go down on your wrath. And then here we have the Jews, the Hebrew War God version, who who takes that same sun but freezes it in place in the sky and freezes the moon in place in the sky so that his Hebrews, his people, will have enough light to finish slaying their enemies. You see the differ. It's black and white, polar opposites. I'm really not sure how this can be confusing for some people, because I've had discussions as you...

...can imagine, I've had discussions with Judaizers, with us, especially people from the Evangelical Church side of things. You know, we people who would say a spouse the same opinions as a John Hagey, and these people are way out there. I mean, you come up with these with with an example for for instance, I'll come up with an example. They it's almost like, I don't want to say they become possessed, but it is amazing to me how fast they can spit out opposing verses from the Old Testament in a attempt to justify the the the sick things that you read about from this, this Hebrew War God. It's amazing how they do it. It's again, it's almost like they're possessed. It just like comes out of them, and I've never seen people react so angrily. They're just so emotionally invested in what's obviously a hoax. It's a hoax, it's not. This is not our Christian God, this this Hebrew War God. All right. And for the women in the audience, here's a interesting example. This is from the New Testament, quote unquote. And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years which had spent all of her living on physicians, neither could be healed of any came up behind Jesus and touched the border of his garment and immediately her issue of blood ceased just by touching Jesus's garment has cloak. She was healed. Obviously she was healed because she believed in him, but the point is, I want to use this example of a woman with Shoutou, she has some kind of menstrual problem, as what it sounds like. Now she's healed, let's take this same menstrual problem and apply it to the Hebrew War God. What does he had to say about well, let's take a look and if a woman had issue, and if her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart for seven days. Whosoever toucheth her, she'll be unclean until the even and if a woman had an issue of her blood beyond the time of her separation, she shall be unclean. So basically, when they have their period, kick him out of the House for a week. That's again. That's the difference that we're coming at. Now. There are there are some examples that I can't even do a contrast and compare with. It's not even like I can say, well, this is a New Testament, let's let's look at the Old Testament on it, because it's so bizarre and over the top there is no comparison. And I'll give you an example. Genesis thirty two. According to Genesis thirty two, there's a character in the Old Testament and his name is Jacob, and in this verse Jake, it's I'm not even going to read it, I'm just going to tell you what happens. Jacob defeats God in a wrestling match. Yeah, you heard me right, they had, they literally had a wrestling match. Jacob on one side of the ring, the Hebrew war got on another, and Jacob, I don't know. I mean, was Vince McMahon there? I can't even make sense out of this thing, except that Jacob defeats I'm just telling what's in there. Jacob defeats the Hebrew War God in a wrestling match. And then, just to wrap it up with the examples, this one from the New Testament. Dearly Beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place under wrath, for it is written vengeance is mine. I will repay. Say of the Lord. Therefore, if thine enemy hunger, feed him, if he thirst, give him drink, for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. Be Not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good. See how that works? All right. Now let's...

...contrast and compared to the Hebrew War God. They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it, men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys. Then they burned the whole city and everything in it but they put the gold and the silver in the articles of bronze and iron, into the Treasury of the Lord's House. That's from Joshua six one and twenty four. I mean this, do I even need to do a whole show? I could just like just compare these two verses and that should be enough for you and you should be on your way and out the door. It's crystal clear what's going on here. So not only does the Hebrew war God tell them to kill everything, men, women, Young, old children, Kill Them, run a sword right through their bodies and then, at the end of it, and this is a nice touch, it when they're done. But make sure you get that silver and gold, buddy. Just just really amazing. All right. So that's our contrast and compare for the day, and I think we can pretty much sum up everything by saying we've demonstrated that there's a vast difference between the old and new testaments, that they're not about the same God or the same people, they don't contain the same theology. When the unbiased student of the Bible understands this, it will be seen that the Hebrew God Jehovah is Selfish, vindictive, racist and ethnic cleanser, a child murderer and a genocideal war God who boastfully claim to be jealous and the creator of evil. Now I get it. These accusations, doubtlessly to the unknowing, are going to appear to be absurd and even blasphemous to Christians who are unfamiliar with the Old Testament. But we just went through it, you just heard it. So the the the the listener of today's show really is asked to, you know, bear with us as we search the Old Testament, believing it to be an accurate record penned by this war God's prophets. We let it speak for itself and, as I said in the beginning of the show, they're going to hang on their own tree and it's going to be their own words that put them on that tree. Okay, and we'll just wrap it up with a few shameless plugs. The first one is, if you want to support the show, the right Bible podcast, go to buy me a coffeecom forward slash right Bible, and we have a what do we had there? We have a coffee mug. You remember, in the beginning of the show it said we had lots of coffee. Well, our show logo is on that coffee Mug, and what a great place to put coffee. Right you want to load up on caffeine and support the show at the same time. Great Way to do it. And of course we always recommend that you have a copy of the very first Bible. You can get that free at the very first Bible Dot Org. Just click on the right right upper corner. It'll say free ebook. You'll get it free. Or if you want to go the extra mile and get the paperback, just go to Amazon and type in forwards. The Very First Bible will be the first listing you see. Click on it and you're all set. And of course all of these programs, podcast videos of books that we produce are all funded by the Marci night church and you can visit them at the Marcion Night Church Dot Org. And with that, we'll see you next show.

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