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Episode 7 · 1 year ago

Identity Theft: How Christians were conned into worshipping a Hebrew War God


In 144 A.D. the first Christians compared and contrasted the God portrayed in the Old and New Testaments. They came to the obvious conclusion they were not the same God - in this episode we take a deep dive into scriptures and find out why.

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Stripping away two thousand years a falsedoctrine isn't easy, but we've had lots of coffee. Now your host,Darren Calama. Hey, everybody, welcome back to another edition of the RightBible podcast, and I am Darren Klama. We want to start off today's showwith a pop quiz. What's the difference between the first Christian Bible andthe one that you have? And the answer is sixty three extra books,three extra gospels and an extra God. Now, in our prior episodes welaid the ground workout for when, how and who compile the very first Biblein one hundred forty four a D, and we walk through the timeline theactors in the events involved in stapling the Hebrew Bible, Old Testament, ontoyour Christian Bible in three hundred and twenty five a d at the council ofNICEA. Now, today we want to dispassionately and unemotionally demonstrate why the Deityportrayed in the Hebrew Bible, the Old Testament, is not and cannot bethe same Christian God that we know, the one revealed to us through Christ. Now, because the Hebrew Bible Hustle is so deep seated and ingrained inmost people, taught and reinforced to them like a drum beat since childhood.We want to be careful not to rely on emotions or drama when we whenwe lay out all of these facts, and we do this US knowing that, in spite of those facts, there's always going to be a segment ofsociety that we won't be able to reach or convince. People that believe inspace aliens, the official nine hundred and one story alone, JFK shooter playinggolf and driving around on the moon in a Dunebug he will drinking Tang orbelieve that a flu bug with a ninety nine point nine seven percent recovery rateis a logical reason to mask everyone, kill the world economy and genetically alterhumanity forever with a new RN, a vaccine. Now think about how emotionallyinvested you are to one side or the other of each of those subjects.Now apply it to your belief in the theological construct that you've been taught tobelief since childhood. You see, that's a tough nut to crack. No, and we realize this, some people, regrettably, we won't be able toreach and for those people, I suppose it makes sense that an alienHebrew War God is what they want to pray to. And let's just clarifythe term Hebrew God. That's just a term for purposes of discussion. It'snot a god, just a figment of the very vivid and disturbing imaginations ofa desert tribe thousands of years ago. Now is Christians. We believe inone God, that God revealed to us through Christ, but we also believethat there's a Satan and anti Christ. So if you're a Hindu, Buddhist, Jew or Muslim, those are your two choices and we pray that youchoose wisely. Now then, given their more recent dabblings in the Anti ChristianTalmud, Jematria and the Kabbala, were these Hebrews actually worshiping and praying tothe Anti Christ? We don't know, nor is it of great concern tous now. What we do know is that they weren't praying to our ChristianGod then and they aren't praying to our Christian God now. They're not doingit today now. If you doubt me, go ahead and ask one. Readersof the Modern Bible are reminded of John Fourteen six, quote unquote.I am the way, the truth and the life. No Man Cometh underthe father but by me, unquote. Now, even for Hardcore Evangelical Judyizers, that verse is very clear. It's crystal clear. There's no way toplay word games with it or creatively interpret some hidden meaning, you know,while they wear a prayer shawl and twirl a magic chicken. There's no wayto do it. Now this brings us...

...full circle back to our topic.How we know the Hebrew God portrayed in the Ote or the Old Testament isnot the Christian God revealed by Christ to us in the New Testament. And, by the way, this is in some recent discovery or revelation a fewpeople had sitting over coffee in the break room yesterday. The first Christians realizethis in full in one hundred and forty four a d because that's one.For the first time, using the first Christian Bible with its Gospel of theLord and Epistles, they could lay out side by side and contrast and comparethe scriptures as written between the new and old testaments. Now the evidence wasso powerful that it caused a schism in the early church and millions of Christiansbroke away from the Judaizers. They were led by a man you probably neverheard of who wrote a book you definitely never heard of now. That manwas Marcian of Sinope, and the book was simply titled Antithesis, and thatbook laid out the evidence proving the Hebrew Bible and its war God are thepolar opposite of the teachings of Christ and our Christian God. Now, regrettably, all copies of antithesis were hunted down and burned. We know of thebook because his enemies included discredited paid hacks like Tertullian and others who made acareer of smearing the man and his ideas. Tertullian, in his zeal, though, quoted from antithesis so much that we can almost reconstruct all of itscontents. So we can at least thank him, somewhat ironically, for thatmuch. And before the Tertullian Fan boys get all up in our arms,let us reflect on what St Joseph himself said about him, quote unquote.As to Tertullian, I have nothing more to say, except he was nota man of the church, Unquote. And by the way, we coulddo a whole show about what it discredited fraud. He is and and Imight just do that, and that makes for a nice seguey, or apivot back to our main topic, the self evident differences between the Hebrew DeityJehovah and our Christian God. Now, to make this fair for everybody involved, I'm only going to use scriptures that everyone agrees are from the Modern Bible, from the King James Version. It will be their own words that hangthem from a treaty. Now, as we run through the comparisons, we'rereminded that Jesus did all the work for US already. He already told usthe Hebrew God as an alien one and not his father. Did you knowthat? Let's read it slowly. Let's hear what he told the Jews,quote unquote. It is my father who honors me, of whom you sayhe is your God, yet you have not known him. Unquote. Andthat's from John Eight five for let's read that again. It is my fatherwho honors me, of whom you say he is your God, yet youhave not known him. Sounds pretty clear. In fact, Jesus once and forall confirms to the Jews the heavenly father was not the god of theirreligion. Neither was he known in the Old Testament. He was not knownuntil Jesus revealed him. Now, of course, we're all familiar with ona forty four, in which he tells them their father is the devil.So this story just gets worse and worse. Now, make no mistake, Jesuswas crystal clear that the Hebrew Deity was alien to him, was notGod, and that these Jews had created a religion centered around a carnal,self worshiping, delusional fantasy, and they killed him for saying it. Letthat sink in real deep, my friend. Now think real hard about if youshould be praying to their God, that Jehovah Deity. This might bea good time to pause the PODCAST, right here, right now, andpray to our Christian God, the father...

...of Jesus, for forgiveness for allowingyourself to be fooled, for not asking deeper questions about something so obvious,something that's been right in front of you the whole time and in fact isnot. The Apostle Paul even tell us that reading the Old Testament is likehaving a veil over your face. It prevents you from getting closer to Christ. So all of these warnings are there. In fact, you could rip thatOld Testament out of your Bible right now. It wouldn't affect you asa Christian, not one shot or tittle, to quote a famous phrase. Infact, it might be a good time to download your free version ofthe very first Bible, the one that that the first Christians use back inone hundred and forty four a D and You can get that at the veryfirst Bible Dot Org. At the website. It's right on the top right handcorner. Just Click Free Ebook and you'll be able to download that atno cost. Or you can get the paper bag version, which is goingto last a little bit longer and that you can pick up at Amazon.Just type in the forwards the very first Bible and it will be the firstlisting you see. Click on that and you're good to go. So justto quickly recap what we've covered so far. You know, when we read theBible it becomes obvious to the Serious Bible student that the old and newtestaments each present God in a vastly different way. The God of the OldTestament is a god of war and a murderer who boasted of being jealous andthe creator of evil. We see that in Isaiah forty five, six andseven, and exit is thirty four fourteen. Yet the God in the New Testamentis entirely different. He is the god of love and peace, aswe know from Second Corinthians Thirteen, eleven and again, don't take my wordfor any of this. I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. Ijust want to lay out what's actually written in black and white so you cancontrast and compare the differences. Now let's start with something pretty easy. I'mgoing to take a scripture from the New Testament on a specific subject matter andthen compare it to what's written and about it in the Old Testament, inthe Hebrew Bible, in terms of or in the light of their their theirHebrew Deity there, Jehovah. So let's start with John Sixteen, very easy. Everyone's already heard of it. For God so loved the world that hegave his one and only son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish buthave eternal life. Now let's look at the Hebrew Deity, quote unquote,kill them all, old and young girls, and women and little children defiled thetemple, the Lord commanded fill its courtyard with corpses, go unquote.That's from Ezekiel six. So right away we kind of get a taste ofthe tone and tenor of the differences between the two. I mean it almostsounds like Charles Manson wrote that that first. I mean we're where does that evencome from? What personality does that come from? It really sounds likeit's written by a person, not not just any person, but clearly aderanged person, someone who would probably be in jail if they were living inour times. Let's go back to the New Testament. This is from MarkTen, one thousand, three hundred and fourteen. And they brought young childrento him, and his disciples rebuked those that brought them, but Jesus saidunto them, allow the little children to come to me, and forbid themnot, for of such is the Kingdom of God. Now let's contrast andcompare that to the Hebrew Bible version of children. Quote Unquote. There cameforth little children out of the city and...

...mocked him and he cursed them inthe name of the Lord. And there came forth to she bears out ofthe woods and they tore forty two of those children. This is from secondkings to twenty three and twenty four, and basically the back story on thatHebrew Bible verse is that their Prophet, Elijah, who was bald, wasbeing taunted by these these little kids. You might think that's funny, butaccording to them, this is what happened. So the kids and kids will dothis. They they taunted them. He's bald, they laughed at themand he prayed to his Hebrew God that these little kids should be killed,and his Hebrew God sent to bears out of the woods, and those bearsrip those little children apart and killed them. I mean what, what is that? Where does that come from? What kind of what kind of sickmind comes up with that? Oh, you're going to make fun of me, so I'm going to tell my Hebrew War God to send some bears toeat these kids. I mean what, it's just sick. All right.Here's another one, first from the New Testament, Mark Ten sixteen, quoteunquote. And he took them up in his arms, put his hands uponthem and bless them. Let's contrast to the Old Testament. How do theylook? At a simple subject of hands. Quote Unquote. If two men arefighting and the wife of one steps in to rescue her husband from theone striking him and she reaches out her hand and grabs his genitals, youare to cut off her hand. You must show her no pity. That'sfrom Deuteronomy, two thousand, five hundred and twelve. I mean, doI even need to make comments after I read these these Hebrew Deity quotes?I mean, what is going on with these people? And they want youto believe that that's your God. They want you to believe that the fatherof Christ actually said this stuff or did this stuff or commanded these things.It's ridiculous on its face. Let's go back to the New Testament and becausewe're going to get into some some interesting stuff. I mean, I didn'treally mean to be, you know, jarring in the beginning, but someof these examples are just so over the top. I mean they just haveto be said. All right, back to the New Testament. This isluke six hundred forty three. Quote. Quote for a corrupt tree bringeth forthnot good fruit. Neither does a good tree bringeth forth corrupt fruit. Nowwhat is the Hebrew Bible say? About the same subject, quote unquote.And out of the ground, the Lord of Yahweh made every tree to growthe tree of the knowledge of good and evil. And that's from genesis tonine three one. So here we have the Hebrew God is capable of producinggood and evil and does both. He kills children, he I don't know, I mean it's it's just amazing. All right. Here's another example,New Testament. This is from a first Corinthians, thirteen five, quote unquote. God's light and in him is no darkness at all. Another one fromJohn Sixteen, God is love, and another one from First Corinthians. Godthinketh no evil. Now let's contrast those, those verses with the Hebrew dty.Quote Unquote, I form light and create darkness, I make peace andcreate evil. I, the Lord Yahweh, do all these things. So onone hand, with the New Testament,...'re saying God is light, there'sno darkness, and God, God is love, there is no evil. He's not. It's evil is just not part of what God is andwhat he does. Yet we contrast that to this this this psychopathic Hebrew Deitywhere he says, yeah, I form light and I create darkness, Imake peace and I create evil. I'm the Lord Yawe, I do allthese things. See The difference. So again, corrupt trees, corrupt fruit. Good tree, good fruit. Let's go back to another subject, jealousy. Love knows no jealousy. First Corinthians Thirteen. For Hebrew Deity, I, the Lord, your God, am a jealous God, for the Lordwhose name is jealous is a jealous God. Again, I mean just completely directcontradictions, polar opposites. Now this one is kind of interesting because itgets into how our Christian God views things through a sense of time and howtheir Hebrew Deity also views things through a sense of time. But you'll noticeit's like looking in a like a carnival fun House Mirror, like a hallof Mirrors. It's really weird. Let's take the first one from the NewTestament. Then Com Peter to him and said, Lord, How oft shallmy brother Sin Against me? And I forgive him until seven times Jesus saidto him. I say not to you until seven time, Spot, untilseventy times seven. That's from Matthew, one thousand eight hundred and twenty three. And here's the Hebrew War God version of that same thought. Process,for I the Lord God and the Jealous God, visiting the Iniquity of thefathers upon the third and fourth generation of them that hate me. So here'sthe Hebrew War God saying, look, if your dad doesn't like me orhe displeases me or hates me in some way, I'm not only going topunish him, I'm going to punish his kids and then, when I'm donewith that, I'm going to punish their kids and then when they have kids, I'm going to curse those kids too. This is just this is this ispsychopath stuff. This is Charles Manson world, and they want you tobelieve that this is your God, that this is your Christian God. It'struly amazing. Here's another real simple example. New Testament. Be Ye, angry, yet not committing sin. Let not the Sun be going down uponyour wrath. From Ephesians for twenty six. Here's the Hebrew War God version theagain, think, talking about the sun, using the son as anexample, quote unquote. And the son stood still and the moon stayed untilthe people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Joshua twelve fourteen. So here,here, here, New Testament side, we're saying. Don't you know,if you get angry with someone or you have a fight with somebody,don't let don't don't go to sleep with that feeling of hatred against another person. Don't let the sun go down on your wrath. And then here wehave the Jews, the Hebrew War God version, who who takes that samesun but freezes it in place in the sky and freezes the moon in placein the sky so that his Hebrews, his people, will have enough lightto finish slaying their enemies. You see the differ. It's black and white, polar opposites. I'm really not sure how this can be confusing for somepeople, because I've had discussions as you...

...can imagine, I've had discussions withJudaizers, with us, especially people from the Evangelical Church side of things.You know, we people who would say a spouse the same opinions as aJohn Hagey, and these people are way out there. I mean, youcome up with these with with an example for for instance, I'll come upwith an example. They it's almost like, I don't want to say they becomepossessed, but it is amazing to me how fast they can spit outopposing verses from the Old Testament in a attempt to justify the the the sickthings that you read about from this, this Hebrew War God. It's amazinghow they do it. It's again, it's almost like they're possessed. Itjust like comes out of them, and I've never seen people react so angrily. They're just so emotionally invested in what's obviously a hoax. It's a hoax, it's not. This is not our Christian God, this this Hebrew WarGod. All right. And for the women in the audience, here's ainteresting example. This is from the New Testament, quote unquote. And awoman having an issue of blood twelve years which had spent all of her livingon physicians, neither could be healed of any came up behind Jesus and touchedthe border of his garment and immediately her issue of blood ceased just by touchingJesus's garment has cloak. She was healed. Obviously she was healed because she believedin him, but the point is, I want to use this example ofa woman with Shoutou, she has some kind of menstrual problem, aswhat it sounds like. Now she's healed, let's take this same menstrual problem andapply it to the Hebrew War God. What does he had to say aboutwell, let's take a look and if a woman had issue, andif her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart for sevendays. Whosoever toucheth her, she'll be unclean until the even and ifa woman had an issue of her blood beyond the time of her separation,she shall be unclean. So basically, when they have their period, kickhim out of the House for a week. That's again. That's the difference thatwe're coming at. Now. There are there are some examples that Ican't even do a contrast and compare with. It's not even like I can say, well, this is a New Testament, let's let's look at theOld Testament on it, because it's so bizarre and over the top there isno comparison. And I'll give you an example. Genesis thirty two. Accordingto Genesis thirty two, there's a character in the Old Testament and his nameis Jacob, and in this verse Jake, it's I'm not even going to readit, I'm just going to tell you what happens. Jacob defeats Godin a wrestling match. Yeah, you heard me right, they had,they literally had a wrestling match. Jacob on one side of the ring,the Hebrew war got on another, and Jacob, I don't know. Imean, was Vince McMahon there? I can't even make sense out of thisthing, except that Jacob defeats I'm just telling what's in there. Jacob defeatsthe Hebrew War God in a wrestling match. And then, just to wrap itup with the examples, this one from the New Testament. Dearly Beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place under wrath, for it iswritten vengeance is mine. I will repay. Say of the Lord. Therefore,if thine enemy hunger, feed him, if he thirst, give him drink, for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. Be Not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good. See howthat works? All right. Now let's...

...contrast and compared to the Hebrew WarGod. They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword everyliving thing in it, men and women, young and old, cattle, sheepand donkeys. Then they burned the whole city and everything in it butthey put the gold and the silver in the articles of bronze and iron,into the Treasury of the Lord's House. That's from Joshua six one and twentyfour. I mean this, do I even need to do a whole show? I could just like just compare these two verses and that should be enoughfor you and you should be on your way and out the door. It'scrystal clear what's going on here. So not only does the Hebrew war Godtell them to kill everything, men, women, Young, old children,Kill Them, run a sword right through their bodies and then, at theend of it, and this is a nice touch, it when they're done. But make sure you get that silver and gold, buddy. Just justreally amazing. All right. So that's our contrast and compare for the day, and I think we can pretty much sum up everything by saying we've demonstratedthat there's a vast difference between the old and new testaments, that they're notabout the same God or the same people, they don't contain the same theology.When the unbiased student of the Bible understands this, it will be seenthat the Hebrew God Jehovah is Selfish, vindictive, racist and ethnic cleanser,a child murderer and a genocideal war God who boastfully claim to be jealous andthe creator of evil. Now I get it. These accusations, doubtlessly tothe unknowing, are going to appear to be absurd and even blasphemous to Christianswho are unfamiliar with the Old Testament. But we just went through it,you just heard it. So the the the the listener of today's show reallyis asked to, you know, bear with us as we search the OldTestament, believing it to be an accurate record penned by this war God's prophets. We let it speak for itself and, as I said in the beginning ofthe show, they're going to hang on their own tree and it's goingto be their own words that put them on that tree. Okay, andwe'll just wrap it up with a few shameless plugs. The first one is, if you want to support the show, the right Bible podcast, go tobuy me a coffeecom forward slash right Bible, and we have a whatdo we had there? We have a coffee mug. You remember, inthe beginning of the show it said we had lots of coffee. Well,our show logo is on that coffee Mug, and what a great place to putcoffee. Right you want to load up on caffeine and support the showat the same time. Great Way to do it. And of course wealways recommend that you have a copy of the very first Bible. You canget that free at the very first Bible Dot Org. Just click on theright right upper corner. It'll say free ebook. You'll get it free.Or if you want to go the extra mile and get the paperback, justgo to Amazon and type in forwards. The Very First Bible will be thefirst listing you see. Click on it and you're all set. And ofcourse all of these programs, podcast videos of books that we produce are allfunded by the Marci night church and you can visit them at the Marcion NightChurch Dot Org. And with that, we'll see you next show.

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